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Jan 30 05 8:42 PM

Terry,
nice to hear from you again, after our forum downtime. The scenario book is finished and will be printed shortly. As far as I understand Caliver Books is already taking orders but as to when they deliver them is something out of my hands .
all the best
EC

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Mar 3 05 4:57 PM

An excellent production job all round, particularly the flags; bizarrely, while I was reading the Orsikany scenario my pre-ordered Conquest Miniatures Indians arrived....

One query: without in any way wanting to sound like a pernickety smart-arse, I note that the British orbat for the Brandywine Cornwallis scenario lists the 33rd regiment twice - first as part of Agnew's brigade and secondly as part of Grey's. Prof Glasco lists the 33rd as being in Agnew's with the 17th in Grey's (which is not listed in the scenario). Is that the way it should be, or is there flexibility in where the regiment should be placed? (Only asking as I'm slowly painting up this brigade and wanted to get the battalions right ).

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Mar 3 05 10:45 PM

Giles,
yes well I'm so keen on the 33rd I thought they should appear more than once
I'd follow RtL's advice.
EC
p.s. Giles, are you by any chance a lawer, spotting that one so quickly grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Mar 4 05 1:28 PM

Ec, Don't worry about it. I have it on the authority of Mr Ryan himself that such typos are in fact deliberate Caliver policy, and all part of his cunning master plan to achieve world domination. He didn't explain this further, but if you'd care to browse the exchanges on the Forlorn Hope Yahoo Group when the latest edition of those rules was released all should become clear.

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Mar 4 05 9:02 PM

Gary,
to be honest, I can blame only myself if the 33rd went into that scenario twice i had plenty of typos in the original ruleset, so much so that I went through the scenarios much more thoroughly, and Jay from Caliver also gave it a thorough going over.
Anyway, at least the scenarios have revised playsheets that put right all the mistakes in the ruleset ones
did you write the Forlorn Hope rules ?
cheers
EC

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Mar 5 05 9:56 AM

Ec, Write them ? I wish. I badgered Dave Ryan for months about the new edition, and asked the first question on the group when they were released - which happened to be about a typo. I don't think Pete Berry, who wrote them with Ben Wilkens, is talking to me yet. That was where Dave Ryan explained his cunning plan of world domination by returning to 17th Century standards of spelling and grammar, so I suppose he let you off light really !!

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Mar 6 05 10:07 AM

No, Forlorn Hope is a neat set of ECW rules written at 1:33 figure scale, so most battalia work out about the 18-22 size. They were intended for 25mm. All combat is worked out using a ratio of pike to shot rather than having the individual subunits fight themselves. So all figures in a unit shoot and fight. A simple solution but one that works very well. Pete did a set of 6mm amendments (well he would, wouldn't he). The 1st edition was written late 80s, a 2nd came out about 1994 (just to clear up the typos). The third edition came out 2002. The rules haven't really changed, just the packaging. The 3rd edition had lots of additional notes on historical forces, coat colours and a sheet of free flags in various scales. More of a complete package similar to 2nd edition GdeB. I started serious gaming in the late 70s using WRG Renaissance by George Gush, but switched to FH as soon as they came out, and I've never used anything else since.

The Polemos set is a new project. I've seen various comments from play-testers singing their praises, and from what I've seen on Pete's website the GNW/WSS set has taken my fancy.

Cheers, Gary

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Mar 9 05 5:30 PM

I bought Forlorn Hope the same time I bought the BG scenario book, after seeing it recommended by various people. It's indeed a quality production effort, and as Gary says contains a large amount of useful background information. Taking account of the regional variations between the armies makes FH look like having an edge in realism over certain other populist ECW rules one could mention. Caliver do very interesting scenario books to go with it...and talking of which, what's going in BG Scenarios volume 2? Freeman's Farm and Bemis Heights alone don't quite justify shelling out for new regiments of Perry Saratoga Brits

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Mar 9 05 7:21 PM

Giles, you know I almost replied to the thread you had on WD asking about WECW, saying don't do it, but I'm glad you've seen the light. I've been playing them for 15+ years and thoroughly enjoy them. My Covenanters have had many a thrashing using them !

Whilst we are talking about scenarios, I bought WI today for the Talavera scenario, but there doesn't seem to be a map, is it posted anywhere else ?

Cheers, Gary

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Mar 9 05 10:17 PM

Giles,
you'll have to make your own Faustian deal on whether you buy the Perry Saratoga troops but I'll certainly look at doing Hubbarton for book 2. That said, there just weren't that many battles in Burgoyne's campaign, and I've already done scenarios for three (dont forget Oriskany).
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Mar 10 05 8:30 AM

Giles/ED,

Actually, three serious battles (Hubbardton, Freeman's, Bemis) plus Bennington and Oriskany (also serious, but no British line present), and the 9th Foot action at Fort Anne means that it was one of the more active campaigns of the war.

Then you can add in some "what-ifs" - St Clair staying put and forcing Burgoyne to storm Fort Ticonderoga; an American attempt to halt the building of the wilderness road (a perfect encounter battle with troops being fed in by both sides); and the British fighting their way out of the camp at Saratoga, instead of surrendering (or conventioning, if you prefer). I'm not sure what St Leger's troops wore, but you could use blue (21st) and yellow (9th or 20th) faced units for the 8th and 34th Foot, so the storming of Fort Stanwix is another option, as is St Leger staying put and fighting Arnold's relief force. There's also the cancelled American invasion of Canada planned for early 1778, when the British would probably still have been wearing their 1777 uniforms.

Giles: a simple rule to remember - when in doubt, buy more figures.

RtL
(who is not Alan Perry - but often wishes he was so that he could finish the AW range)

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Mar 10 05 9:01 AM

Giles/ED,

Actually, three serious battles (Hubbardton, Freeman's, Bemis) plus Bennington and Oriskany (also serious, but no British line present), and the 9th Foot action at Fort Anne means that it was one of the more active campaigns of the war.

There's always the "what-ifs" - St Clair staying put and forcing Burgoyne to storm Fort Ticonderoga; an American attempt to halt the building of the wilderness road (a perfect encounter battle with troops being fed in by both sides); and the British fighting their way out of the camp at Saratoga, instead of surrendering (or conventioning, if you prefer). I'm not sure what St Leger's troops wore, but you could use blue (21st) and yellow (9th or 20th) faced units for the 8th and 34th Foot, so the storming of Fort Stanwix is another option, as is St Leger staying put and fighting Arnold's relief force. There's also the cancelled American invasion of Canada planned for early 1778, when the British would probably still have been wearing their 1777 uniforms.

Giles: a simple rule to remember - when in doubt, buy more figures.

RtL - who is NOT Alan Perry
(but often wishes he was so that he could finish the AW range)

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